From:Hodge e-mail:myemail
Subject:Another View Date:Tue Jan 17 10:47:00 2012

The email below was sent to all Chapter Presidents over the weekend regarding another view of the issues between Scott Lange (Chief Blackhawk Chapter) and Richard Spagnoli (current AMCA National President).


Greetings from Kentucky,

In 2009 I founded, chartered, and was elected President of the Bluegrass Chapter.
The purpose and mission of the chapter was and is in line with the national
organization's purpose and philosophy. Under Rocky Halter's AMCA, we had the needed
support to earn our charter. And under the current AMCA, we have enjoyed the
support and benefits to host our first national road run, which by most measures was
a success. So it somewhat comes as a surprise that another chapter sends me the
message below, emploring me to support their coup.

My members are small in number. I may have the youngest member base among all
clubs. They are growing the club and having fun doing so by attending various meets
and coordinating local runs. Most are not retired, and their full-time jobs support
this hobby (or addiction) that is supposed to bring some joy and pleasure outside of
the normal day-to-day. The club can't function without comittment and efforts from
individuals like myself that hold everything together and keep the ball rolling. So
it is with great concern that I continue seeing evidence of unrest between a single
chapter and the BOD.

My attention is focused on the needs of my chapter, and promoting the club's purpose
and philosophy. We will not take sides. We do not support this coup. My wishes
are that the individuals driving these proposals can act with civility and
professionalism, and not divide the club as they will most certainly do if these
messages continue to be presented to the members that are not in leadership roles.


Brian Groff

Subject: Fw: Respect
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:36:00 -0600

From: Scott K. Lange
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 1:09
To: ''
Importance: High

Dear Mr. Spagnolli,

I read with interest the first Presidentís newsletter.
Now I can see why so many people have to say what they do about you. You
donít seem to tolerate critical comments very well, even when those comments are
intended to be constructive. I will concede that I can be a bit intense,
but my message is usually spot on. Hopefully by now, youíve learned that
shooting the messenger rarely solves the problem. And there is a problem.

All of this has been building up to a proposal. I had
wanted to take you up on your offer to call and talk, but you have already
established that you donít care to have a dialogue. So instead, I will put
it in writing. I will share this message only if you a) try to preempt me
on the plan for change I am going to present, and/or b) if you break the deal I
am going to propose. I am a man of my word and my integrity is well
established. If you had the same credentials, Iíd be discussing this with
you via phone or in person. There are three other individuals who know
about what I am going to propose, and they have all agreed to keep it
confidential Ė forever.

AMCA is a member driven organization. The bulk of club
revenue comes from member dues and Chapter sponsored events. The rubber
meets the road at the Chapter level.

I believe in a strong board. An organization canít
function if the board does not have sufficient power to conduct its affairs on
behalf of the organization. I believe the AMCA requires a strong

That said, I also believe as a member driven organization,
the board needs to be accountable to its members. That accountability is
lacking in our club. I have heard from many members who are distressed
that their voices canít be heard. Many are frustrated that all decisions
are made at the board level without input from the Chapters and members.
The proposal I am about to make will resolve that conflict and allow members
greater input into the affairs of the club.

Whether you agree or not, I am establishing a working group
of respected members of our club. The individuals I ask to serve on this
group have impeccable integrity and credentials. Before they are asked to
join the group, they will be fully vetted. This group will contain a mix
of Chapter level leaders, as well as individuals who served in a National

No one will be asked to serve on this working group unless
they agree in advance to several conditions. Respect for every opinion is
paramount. No bad mouthing of anyone, no personal vendettas, no past
disappointments, no chapter rivalries - one purpose and one alone Ė redesign
this club, with a positive attitude, so it works.

I will ask this group to come up with new by laws that will
establish the goal stated above to allow greater member involvement in club
affairs. They will be asked to find a workable balance between the anarchy
that would ensue if the members made all decisions and the current situation
where all power resides in ten people at the top.

While I do not intend to dictate a solution to this group, I
do intend to support them behind the scenes by making suggestions on possible
approaches to representative governance. I will also support them by
drafting language that captures the essence of their decisions, including the
wording of revised by-laws. Input to this working group can be made by
anyone, with one condition. All suggestions and recommendations shall be
presented to the group in writing. The group will be completely
independent in its work and not subject to direction by the National BOD or its

That said, I do have ideas that I believe will greatly reduce
the scope of the task. Specifically, I envision a governance structure
that makes chapter leadership accountable to chapter members, and makes National
leadership accountable to an oversight body comprised of Chapter
presidents. The Chapter, or its President, may determine that a new
chapter level leadership position be created to sit on the oversight
board. At the chapter level, one member, one vote. At the oversight
level, one chapter, one vote. To alleviate administration associated with
voting, I would suggest a proxy system. In those chapters where the
members are comfortable with their leadership, they may elect to tender their
proxies to the chapter board. If chapters are in good step with their
members, members will feel comfortable entrusting their proxy to the
leadership. Where less cohesion exists, and where the chapter board does
not obtain a majority of proxies, member voting on certain matters should be the

The same proxy structure can be maintained for the oversight
body. If chapters feel comfortable with the National leadership, they can
tender their proxies to a designated member of the board, entrusting that member
to vote on that chapterís behalf. A well respected management team will
obtain enough proxies to allow all decisions to be made at the board
level. If the board canít obtain sufficient proxies to make all decisions
at the board level, certain types of decisions will require approval by the
oversight body.

Establishing this system does not require excessive
administration. There are tools available today to allow members to visit
a website to cast their votes on issues, and the integrity of the results can be

While I do not believe it would be necessary, those concerned
about the disparate numbers of members in each chapter, weighted voting could be
considered. Each chapter could have votes at the oversight level that is
proportionate to the total population of club members. This adds
additional administration, but would respond to chapters who believe their
chapter should have greater input to the process because of their relative
size. This is a decision for the working group to make.

The working group will assess appropriate voting margins to
apply to certain types of decisions. I would envision that major issues
would require a larger majority, but in such cases, would allow the chapters to
provide direction to the board. To preserve the ability of the board to
function, less significant matters can be advisory only. This is the
avenue for assuring there is balance between the input of the members and
chapters and the necessity of most decision authority vested in the

This is a conceptual overview. It is straightforward
enough that members will understand it, it is fair, and it allows those who just
want to ride their machines to tender their proxies to their chapter
leadership. This system would assure accountability and provide comfort to
members that their voices can be heard on matters THEY believe are

This is my proposal. You have two choices.

One, you can reject this proposal, and it will occur
anyway. I will take the chance that the members will be sufficiently
pleased with the re-designed governance structure, and that they will respect
the group that came up with the plan. Notwithstanding your absolute
authority, you will be hard pressed to resist this recommendation as you will
have open rebellion if you reject it. Your capacity as a leader will be

Two, you can buy into this proposal and, and provided you and
the BOD agree, in writing with the full authority of the BOD, that the
final recommendations made by the working group will be accepted by the board
and implemented within six months. If you accept these terms, you can take
full credit for the solution proposed, and I give you my word, and the word of
the other individuals I have advised of this plan, that no one will ever know
the idea came from anyone but you. That will allow you an opportunity to
re-establish your credibility as a leader of this organization that is willing
to give more than just lip service to ďrespectingĒ the input of all members of
the AMCA. The boardís acceptance of this arrangement will assure that
those currently ďin the boardís campĒ will support the process, and will also
assure that those skeptical of the current structure will also buy

If you reject the deal, you are going to put your position
and reputation on the line. If you decide instead to reject the deal, this
message will be distributed widely across the club. You will have to
explain why you rejected it, and I can assure you, people are not going to allow
you to ignore it. With all of the rhetoric about respect, and being open
to constructive ideas that will move our club forward, the rejection of this
proposal will reveal your true underlying motivations. With all due
respect, you wonít have the credibility to govern, assuming there is still a
membership to govern.

It is clear from your refusal to respond to my earlier
messages that you assume me to be a troublemaker with a negative agenda.
You have misjudged me, Mr. Spagnolli. If we are going to have a war and
make the members decide who is more deserving of respect, I donít mind the hand
I hold. There is strength in keeping to the high road. Letís see if
your actions can match your words.

Please note that I havenít dropped my objection to the
wrongful expulsion of Charles Finney. My advice to you on that, is to
admit the board acted without a defined procedure, and that as a result, you
have decided to reverse the decision that was made. You seem to have an
absolute fear of admitting you have made a mistake, but if you do, you will find
that in doing so the perception of your leadership will be enhanced. If
you donít, your hubris will pave the road to your demise.

I will be leaving for Las Vegas tomorrow morning for the
auctions, and when I arrive, I anticipate being mobbed by club members attending
that event. Iíll be arriving Thursday afternoon, and if I havenít heard
from you by then, I donít see any reason to not share this message with
others. You have through the evening tonight to send an email response to
this communication, or you can contact me directly by phone at 425-210-8531
starting tomorrow morning through Thursday afternoon. I apologize for leaving
you such limited time, however, based on what I know of you, giving you longer
would likely result in you creating your own tribunal to do the same thing I
have just suggested. The reason I have shared this with a limited number
of people, is to be able to prove you are a liar if you try to pursue this
course on your own.

I will close with one final point. Some of your friends have
noted that the problems at the National level are the result of prior
leaders. They suggest that you are just doing your best to clean up the
mess. Unfortunately, such assertions only drive home the wisdom of my
proposal. Had reasonable governance provisions been in place, those past
problems wouldnít have occurred. People in this club wouldnít have to act
like children pointing accusatory fingers at others in explanation for what is
wrong. The root of the problem is the governance structure, and instead of
talking about it, Iím taking the necessary steps to change it. I doubt
many people will find my goals to be disrespectful. I have nothing to
gain, and nothing to lose in pushing for change Ė I have already gained much
respect among members for my efforts and that is way more than I was looking for
by speaking up.

Respect is earned, not an entitlement that comes with your
position as you believe. If your pride is so great that you refuse to
acknowledge this as anything other than a constructive, respectful proposal,
please do not try to convince our members that you have only the best interests
of the club at heart. Your brazen thirst for control and power will have
been fully exposed, and I doubt you will ever earn the respect you so

I look forward to your prompt reply to this message.
Hopefully, you realize by now that when I say I am going to do something, it


Scott Lange